re: I do eat sauerkraut and pickles with no reactions, love those.. One of the things it does is to increase and maintain the mucus layer in the gut and strengthen the integrity of the gut lining. It smelled extremely tangy and cheesy. Weve arrived at the 1/2-cup dose by trial and error, as judged by the anorexigenic effect that results when oxytocin levels increase. ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). As we always do, the, Half and half isnt available in Australia, so, in our, If store-bought, half and half milk is available in your area, we recommend you follow Dr Davis. The growth curve of L.reut vs. temp, like most probiotic bacteria, is a shape. re: 1/2-cup serving size has more then 1000 times more CFU then what BioGaia recommends.. was added? what yogurt machine, nominal temp, temp regulation? If I found myself in that situation, Id tend to run long. What separates a basic yogurt from plain milk and cream would be appear to be just the microbes and their metabolites (including short chain fatty acids). Joan wrote: Theres so much talk about yogurt being good for you but I have always found it makes me sick.. Frozen, sauces, any and all combinations, in any recipes, all brands. It appears that the lactose is lower in heavy cream vs. H&H or full-fat milk. I use 1/2 gallon whole milk, 1/2 cup HWC, 1/2 cup previous batch yogurt, 2 tbsp. It is necessary topurchaseorganic milk to guarantee no antibiotics are present. Whitney Benefield wrote: I am having trouble getting my yogurt to be the right consistency., re: starter culture from Cultured Food Life by Cutting Edge Cultures. Idont recall seeing any adverse reactions raised, other than perhaps the occasional person not being happy with specific dream content where vivid dreams have been restored. Effectively, if true, what is being ultimately suggested here is that a home made yogurt can fix a great deal of the obesity in the entire world! He is Chief Medical Officer and co-founder of Realize Therapeutics Corp. that is developing innovative solutions for the disrupted human microbiome and author of the book Super Gut. He is Chief Medical Officer and co-founder of Realize Therapeutics Corp. that is developing innovative solutions for the disrupted human microbiome and author of the book Super Gut. Or they dont understand what we are trying to achieve here, even believing that the benefits we seek can be achieved with conventional yogurtno, not even close. The only reason I am doing this is for the health benefits brought about by the 6475, so I add a couple crushed tablets with every subsequent batch just to make sure the 6475 strain is maintained. Listen to Dr. Davis Defiant Health Radio podcast on your favorite podcast source: Buzzsprout, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Pandora, iHeart Radio, TuneIn + Alexa and others. Merely avoid consuming any of the initial batch, and treat it all as starter for production batches, thus diluting the amendments by another 12 or more (144total). Maybe I just need to regroup and purchase the tablets. Also wondering if I put a particular strain of bacteria into my gut in a high count could that perhaps have consequences on the other bacteria in my gut since they have a relationship? . Thats probably a fine starter for a practice run. If so, Id be inclined to use the 105F setting, rather than the 95, to discourage unwanted microbes. If I wanted to try using cream only, Id be tempted, as needed, to add some unmodified potato starch to make the net carbs equivalent to H&H. direct from the US distributor (Everidis), https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3084715/, Run that cycle unless you know you dont need to. Making yogurt generates a product with overt effects in adults. What brand/product of coconut milk did you use? What is causing this? no other dairy products do this to me, no other food at all does this to me. I found that 12 hrs at 110F is about right. Heating and holding milk at 82 C (180 F) for 20 minutes (or longer) denatures the milk proteins so that they bind and set together. Now I have all I need to make the L-reuteri yogurt. I ordered the LR Superfood and L.Gasseri Superfood starters from Culture Food Life, and the instructions that come with the starters say to ferment both at 100 degrees. And then, a prompt reaction tends to suggest that youve got a dysbiosis. I just wondered if I was losing the good stuff when I drain it to make it thicker. 24-36. Our customers confirmed that our homemade half and half looked different to yogurt made with store bought half and half milk. Ive found that with full fat cream and 1/2 & 1/2 I have successfully made yogurt. Its an essential step with raw milk (like the goat milk in the batch brewing here now), and Id recommend it for non-dairy yogurt base as well, just to eliminate any stray microbes. Many commercial products arent, because terminating the growth extends shelf life and avoids refrigeration. Where half and half milk is notavailable, we recommend, heating full cream milk (or whole milk in America and Canada). Thats actually a main goal of using any deliberate probiotic displacing adverse species and strains. My machine cant handle the quantities youve had success with. This time, I started over with 10 Bio Gaia tablets, used organic half and Inulin. Sam A wrote: Ive ordered off of iHerb and I went through a few batches., re: A lot of time the yogurt separated and looked like this. Have We Discovered the Fountain of Youth? I sterilize my tools and follow the recipe to a T but its not working anymore for some reason. what brand of milk, cream or half&half? Joan wrote: Its yogurt of any kind, in any combination.. Daniel Sherman wrote: Had very good experience with second batch using few tablespoons from first batch, inulin, and 3 crushed LR tablets. Any help would be great. They do not need to be considered permanent guests. I wondered if making a half gallon if you need more. Ive been discussing this idea of making yogurt by starting with a specific strain of Lactobacillus reuteri ATCC PTA 6475, based on the detailed studies conducted at MIT and elsewhere, both experimental animal and human, that have suggested dramatic effects. Aside from one notable incident where I put a towel around my yogurt in the oven and then turned it on and forgot about it (do not do this, folks!) What are the pros and cons of eating/drinking the whey? Saving some as starter is a different matter, as sensory qualities dont matter, just viability of the L.reuteri bacteria. It does not appear so, short of ordering isolated Lactobacillus reuteri ATCC PTA 6475 as research material (and I havent researched how that would be done). ________ Blog Associate (click for details). CBS Mash-Up Wheat Belly Edition: The Wheat Belly book and message rocked the nutritional worldand it has never recovered. How could you notice thicker hair after so short a time? The low temp just slows growth (but invites contamination). Please understand, at the end of the day, the L reuteri probiotic DOES NOT make yogurt, traditional yogurt that is, you can only try to make a yogurt like product. Then put it in the glass cups and put it in my yogurt maker for 8 hrs. Is it normal to have a YELLOW top layer? For many people, just following the gut flora cultivation strategy in Wheat Belly Total Health, or the newer Undoctored, can clear it up. We have experimented using fewer tablets and are pleased to say that we had significant results with only 3 tablets. What did it look like before that (if known)? Would a tablespoon a day do it?. If we lump the two L.r. While you may still obtain the oxytocin-provoking effect, you lose. If making the yogurt on some other base, like coconut milk, there would of course be no whey. Yet Im in the process of straining it now. re: A little research showed that lymphocyte numbers are increased following oral delivery of Lactobacillus caseu which is evidence that probiotic stimulation can increase the size of lymphocyte populations.. This means that when preparing your next batch, you simply replace the 3 crushed tablets with a third a cup of L. reuteri yogurt. Even it I dont have the winning solution yet, I can take the inulin. Had very good experience with second batch using few tablespoons from first batch, inulin, and 3 crushed LR tablets yogurt came out very firm with good taste. See response to a separate question of yours on this thread. It is also possible to freeze a portion of yogurt or whey and use at a later time. I say this because many years ago I got my Dad a yogurt maker that didnt work very well. Add the probiotic starter - one of the below methods: a) Crush 3 BioGaia Gastrus probiotic tablets into a fine powder using a mortar and pestle, or other hard object on a clean, dry surface. If you are fermenting from cold-start, in the Instant Pot pot, and it develops hot spots near the heating elements, that could cause localized die off (but would not explain the pink colonies). Pure liquid, very little smell, and sweet Any thoughts or comments appreciated. Don't worry. Their product is called Gastrus and combines the ATCC PTA 6475 strain with the DSM 17938 strain. Today's wheat is different from the wheat of 1960, thanks to extensive genetic manipulations introduced to increase yield-per-acre. Weve been consuming both.. Set to what temperature? Learnings will be reported. Or you have been exposed to glyphosate that, while an herbicide, is also a potent antibiotic that kills off healthy microbial species. Con: Its insulinotrophic (provokes insulin). On the other hand, inulin has been trouble-free. We have extra Gastrus standing by, just in case. I use 8 crushed Biogaia Gastrus tablets in the initial batch, and then I use 2 crushed tablets added to 1/2 cup of the previous batch to start subsequent batches. Dr. Davis and the Inner Circle team help people like YOU lose weight, improve health, increase energy and even turn the clock back on appearance. Didnt get a clear look during the machine cycle as the outside cover was pretty heavy with condensation. I have started a second batch in the yogurt maker with the cup I drew off at the 12 hour mark. The lack of CFU info in particular doesnt allow me to even guess on the likelihood of first batch syndrome. I used the CEC LR Superfood Starter which can be found here: https://cuttingedgecultures.com/lr-superfood/ The recipe I used is included with the culture, but is the same recipe that Dr. Davis uses. Sorrymy additional info crossed your reply. I steeped whole oats in this quart of yogurt overnight to give (me) a resistant starch + I added blueberries when I was plating this for breakfast. Where available (and it isnt in stores around here), goat milk is an attractive way to avoid some bovine diary issues, particularly casein betaA1 (goat is A2). It simply didnt make much yogurt. DISCLAIMER I see you make it in a regular pot from your pots & pan so you seem to heat your dairy (to 180?) Are the benefits due to: CFU amplification, and/or the exogenous metabolites, and if so do the metabolites vary by substrate, and perhaps time? Upset stomach,gas, etc. are reporting the effects listed above. Fermenting coconut milk is much fussier and a continual precise control over temperature will be required, e.g., one of the other devices. What am I doing wrong? If you choose a pasteurized dairy product, there is no need for pre-heating. Therefore, this it really a food hacking exercise that can result in inconsistent outcomes. The jar on the left was heated and held for 20 minutes and produced consistent, firm, thick set yogurt. To Make L. Reuteri Yogurt Excerpted from Dr. William Davis. 2. The wheat belly diet, written about by cardiologist Dr. William Davis, claims that excluding all sources of wheat from your diet can help reduce your risk for health problems, such as cardiovascular disease, diabetes or becoming overweight. It completely separated into curds & whey. John M wrote: I used full fat 4% whole fat Chobani Greek yogurt as my starter.. yogurt, but the results were entirely unsatisfactory. No one really wants to eat thin and separated yogurt, do they? Seems like I might need to ferment longer. (And, to be sure, we really dont know what the optimal generational strategies are yet.). 6. ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). I dissolved the Gaia tabs and sugar in the goat milk after warmed to 110. I whisk slowly to make a slurry before adding the rest of the liquid. Help! then bring it down to 110, stir in the The Biogaia Gastrus tablets and inuline then put the pot in the oven with the light turn on an just let it go for 24h? Don't use a blender with your yogurt, as this kills the living microbes. I bow to your better knowledge. You may well be right. Dr. William Davis is responsible for exposing the incredible nutritional blunder made by "official" health agencies: Eat more "healthy whole grains." Today's wheat is different from the wheat of 1960, thanks to extensive genetic manipulations introduced to increase yield-per-acre. Above ideal, it also tapers off, to an irrecoverable cliff which is reportedly 122F (die-off). Dee wrote: My yogurt maker instructions say 8-10 hours is good, with 12 hours being the most you would need.. Gently stirred that into rest of milk. The color does change a bit from the starting liquid, but is not an obvious yellow. We do not consider this a concern as the whey can be poured out leaving thicker yogurt curd in the jar. Ive personally been making one or another of the program progurts for years now, and nothing has raised an eyebrow. You can build REAL momentum and achieve spectacular results for your clients, patients, and community: Substantial weight loss Lower blood sugarsmany type 2 diabetics become non-diabetics re: I would like to participate in this L.reuteri experiment, but strongly suspect dairy as fuel for an auto-immune response., Dairy reactions broadly fall into several categories: lactose: largely metabolized whey: largely fractionates and could be discarded casein beta A1: use bovine A2 or non-bovine milk hormones: seek non-medicated herd, but we are talking about nursing female animals, after all, so theres a limit to what can be done about that ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). But the truth is we are crawling every nook and cranny with trillions of microbes. Biogaia also has the usual merchandising tension of needing to recover investment and have an on-going business model. Danielle Rigney wrote: When is the ideal time to separate the whey from the curds? James White wrote: Ive been looking through the ingredients and it. He gave them a list of foods low on the glycemic index. Not sure if theres anything in itnothing on the label. Anyway, it smelled and looked so foul that I didnt dare even try it; it went into the garbage. Im going to make another batch with Trader Joes coconut milk that doesnt have the food additive in it and see if that makes a difference. Dont forget to reserve a third of a cup of yogurt or whey for your next batch of yogurt! We have made conventional yogurt with their milk previously. I have not observed any substantial health benefits by ingesting the tablets. The effects could be due to that, and/or the fact that yogurt making also results in exogenous production of strain metabolites. Robert Rominger wrote: In order to maintain the two strains on an extended basis, how often must the dosages of the L. reuteri yogurt be taken? Use the digital control panel to set the temperature to 36C and the time to 24-hours and then press confirm to begin incubation.12. Could it have gotten stronger? Let's make Dr Davis yogurt Part 1 - Enjoy! Just trued some and no amount of mixing could get rids of the clumps (curds). ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details), This method seems to skip the normal yogurt making step of heating the base (mile, cream, half and half) to 185F. (and in what month, to be delivered to what region). Isaved off, cubed and froze the whey from my most recent batch, and plan to try using it as starter sometime next week. We make Dr. William C. Davis Bio Gaia Lacto Bacillus Reuteri yogurt and yogurt with yogurt starter powder and inulin. Gather all your. Do you refrigerate it at any point? In Dr. Davis recipe there are three ingredients, prebiotic fiber starter tabs or 2 tablespoons of yogurt whey from previous batch in a quart of half-and-half or coconut milk. re: Then I unplugged the IP, plugged it back in, and ran the Yogurt setting on Normal for 8 hours, then another 5 hours on Normal again.. ________ Blog Associate (click for details), Ive ordered off of iHerb and I went through a few batches. Ferment longer than 36 hours and the rate of microbial death begins to exceed the numbers obtained via doublings (likely due to competition for resources) and you can actually obtain, Do verify the temperature of whatever device you are using to maintain the fermenting temperature, as not all devices are accurate. The probiotic tablets can be crushed using a mortar and pestle or other hard object (clean stone, bottom of a thick drinking glass, rolling pin, etc.). The effects are sustained across yogurt generations, with no added Gastrus. re: would be better choices than inulin or FOS.. Ive made too much curds & whey for my liking. If you give it a try, be sure to come back and report your experience. 1 quart half-and-half. Yes, but some of those pots are not calibrated very accurately. What if you could dramatically improve your body composition, balance your hormones, and even reverse the signs of aging just by eating one little food?My wife, Alyson and I already made a couple of batches and can't believe the difference in how we feel, and it's only been a couple of weeks.So what is it?It's a very particular type of yogurt, replete in scientifically proven strains of probiotics that you can whip up right at home.Today we're here, once again, with one of our very favorite doctors in the whole wide world, Dr. William Davis.Dr. Or what else would you suggest? 1) The Goal Setting Guide: Learn how to set goals and actually accomplish them within 90 days! In general: because some of the strains being explored in the program express more bacteriocins than others, and might suppress the benefits of the other strain(s) present. Then refrigerated. Sound plan. I started a half-gallon batch of the Gastrus yogurt last night. But, get exposed to selected strains of E. coli from contaminated produce and you develop life-threatening diarrhea that can be fatal, especially in children. [not UHT] I heated to 180 degrees F, cooled to 110 degrees F. Then added small amount of cooled milk to slurry of 10 crushed Bio gastrus tabs with 1 Tbsp Inulin. ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). In the meantime, we have the empirical observations that, in consideration of published Lactobacillus reuteri ATCC PTA 6475 clinical effects: Merely ingesting the tablets appears to have subclinical effects in adults. Weve been consuming both. L.reuteri is expected to ferment at temps up to 106F at least. Did 4 more boil cycles but temp only raised to about 160 at highest. Thanks, Ken wrote: This method seems to skip the normal yogurt making step of heating the base (mile, cream, half and half) to 185F.. Note: It will have a gluey consistency and may not incorporate. I tried to make a quart following directions on this site and after 24 hours it separated into a LOT of whey with a little not-great-looking yogurt on top. of inulin in each batch. My production batches dont have enough to bother with. Because I used a quart of half and half and ended up with about 1.5 cups og greek style yogurt. Its pretty quick, within the hour, sometimes even before I finish eating it. Because the most robust data were generated using the ATCC PTA 6475 strain of L. reuteri (and, to a lesser extent, the DSM 17938 strain), I have been confining my efforts to this strain. Maura wrote: The original post doesnt mention anything going up to 180 degrees is that step not necessary at all?. David wrote: See figure S7 of that research. (Available on Stitcher, Podchaser, Spotify, Amazon Music, iHeart Radio, and Podcast Addict. I had to let it go for 2 days to try to get it to thicken but it remained very thin but tasted good. Defiant Health Radio with Dr. William Davis William Davis, MD Health & Fitness 4.9 48 Ratings . I just ruined my 3rd batch of yogurt. re: Does the 2 tbsp you reserve for future batches get refrigerated?, Absolutely. Dr. William Davis: How to Heal Your Gut with Delicious Homemade Yogurt Abel James 50.1K subscribers Subscribe 549 17K views 1 year ago Fat-Burning Man Show What if you could dramatically. did you run a pasteurization cycle? Yes, just one qt total base. What presumptions are those instructions making about cultures, and substrates (liquid base, and any added carbohydrate)? Today, Im trying this using the oven method, but my oven gets cold after an hour, so Im heating it every 1 1/2 hours. Even though you may have been minding the temp, the bottom of that pot may have gotten hot enough to impair the culture. Also, why do you incubate for 24 or more hours? Again, we made 2 batches. Would appreciate help, Hillary Anderson wrote: Kinetic yogurt maker. While I wander off and make inquiries on that, let me get more insight on the context, The possible benefits of these exploratory yogurts rest on a foundation of the core program, which is challenging to do on a vegan diet. It does not produce lumpy yogurt. Okayso its specifically the L. reuteri that needs the longer hours. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). re: I will order through the US distributor and report back!, If you arent in the US, I dont actually know if they export. Yogurt Maker Automatic Digital Yoghurt Maker Machine with 8 Glass Jars 48 Ozs (6Oz Each Jar) LCD Display with Constant Temperature Control Stainless Steel . Its a go-to staple prebiotic fiber in support of gut flora cultivation. Bob, Thanks for replying so quickly. Do you have any suggestions? It was the 2019 Revised & Expanded. CFU amplification is the leading explanation for the generational capability. An do you leave the lid on?. I recommend you fill it up with water, let it sit for 1/2 an hour, and measure the temp of the water. Dont pre-heat. Not sure what to do. If we can develop some context here, I can at least make informed inquiries. Thats a pasteurization cycle, and might be optional when using base liquids (milk, cream, H&H) that are already pasteurized. ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). PM me on FB if you want to discuss this more. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). Can I just pour it out? inulin, and 2 BG crushed tablets. His blog wheatbellyblog has been visited by millions of people. Ive made maybe 12 batches of the stuff with varying degrees of success. MasteringDr William Davisshomemade yogurt made with the probioticLactobacillus Reuterihas been no easy feat. A 100 watt incandescent bulb will do that. The counts are further increased by performing fermentation in the presence of prebiotic fibers. I was wondering if you could put a step by step on how you make your yogurt. These are two of the potential issues with dairy (specifically random North American bovine diary, presumed to be casein betaA1, which is provocative to some people). I had not heard of Dr. Davis before I found him through Donnas podcast. The yogurt is thick, delicious, and contains a marked increase in bacterial counts, though I have not yet performed a formal count. . If there are already discussion on this topic please share Dr Davis views, Nasser Siddiqui wrote: Does anyone know of the side effects with such a high amount of L. reuteri CFU in the yogurt?. I wonder if I could tolerate this? ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details), In the particular case of the two strains of Lactobacillus reuteri in Biogaia Gastrus, it appears that they do not colonize the human gut on an extended basis. I havent run into starter exhaustion, but have been adding one crushed tablet to every 5th batch made from starter (just as a precautionary measure we really dont yet know what the generational limit is, nor precisely what might threatenit). I have made many batches that turned out great, so I am really disappointed. He uses 1 Tbls of inulin. re: Its just the yogurt. Can someone clarify if the yogurt is recommended for a BC survivor? * 1T of inulin * 10 crushed BioGaia Gastrus tablets. The Dr. Oz Show: Wheat Belly 10-Day Grain Detox, Deepak Chopra: Dr. Davis and Deepak Chopra sit down to discuss his Wheat Belly Total Health Book. Ocetosin tends to naturally slow down as you grow old and I am sure there is some reason for this, after all the human body is build smart but boosting this with reuteri as you age, will it cause any damage to organs. They just say to avoid yogurt. Im afraid we might be boring the other folks in this thread. Dr. Davis mentioned in his post that people eating the yogurt have reported a number of benefits: smoother skin (including fewer wrinkles), increased muscle mass, a rise in testosterone, weight loss, etc. We produced a unique, yogurt-like end product but had our suspicions that it wasnt quite right. The original post doesnt mention anything going up to 180 degrees is that step not necessary at all? Any unresolved dysbiosis might complicate guesses here, too. Do not submerge equipmentin boilingwater. These strains may just be slower metabolizers. July 3, 2019 By Dr. William Davis. I am following the Listen to Your Gut protocol and it warns not to consume prebiotic fiber if you have intestinal issues like mine. I used Meyenburg goat milk from grocery. I dont mind making expensive yogurts but if the home made yogurt doesnt work why bother? In our next experiment, we decided to exclude cream from the mix and heat 100% full cream milk only. I made a batch and since Im the only one who is eating it, it might last several days. Megan wrote: For how long do you maintain it at 110 degrees?. Having read things that suggested that a full boil cycle might not be necessary, I allowed it to cool down to 110, removed about a quarter cup of the liquid, and mixed it into a slurry with the inulin and powdered tablets. It says a lot, however, about the microbes you harbor. I dont understand the 24-36 hours mentioned here. Dr. William Davis, DIY Healthcare: How To Get Off Statins 264K views5 years ago The Four Dangers of Stopping a Statin Drug 210K views3 years ago Secrets Hidden in Your Resting Heart Rate 136K. Any insight would be greatly appreciated! John M stated, youve made a few batches of yogurt here have you experienced the anorexigenic effect after eating this specific L Reuteri strain of Biogaia Gastrus yogurt?. The Biogaia Gastrus tablets arent exactly given away at $27-$30/ box.